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I see nothing wrong with people getting rated 2/4 if they may truely deserve it. But when an eHelp has 5 replies from really helpful members, and they ALL get rated 2/4, all five of them, that just seems very unfair, lazy, and many other things to me. I'm a lot more weary to reply to those people, because it just seems like nothing is good enough for them, and I don't like feeling like I'm not appreciated.

I feel like I'm just ranting and changing the topic though. :P Sowwie.

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This means that, even if in someone's opinion, the answer was not brilliant, they are rewarded for their effort in some way.

Oh, sophiethelibrarian, the point of eHelp is not to get rewarded. It's about peer support. I can see where getting a reward point or two would be nice and everything, but honestly, that's not what eHelp is about.

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I find the two reward points/reply almost laughable.

I mean, what, you get a whopping like 20 reward points a week? Wowser! Heh. It just seems funny to me.

I'm not really the best person to be sharing my opinions on gaining more points though, as I hardly desire to get a higher point-count.

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Quote: from JennyColada at 4:29 pm on Aug. 20, 2006

I see nothing wrong with people getting rated 2/4 if they may truely deserve it. But when an eHelp has 5 replies from really helpful members, and they ALL get rated 2/4, all five of them, that just seems very unfair, lazy, and many other things to me. I'm a lot more weary to reply to those people, because it just seems like nothing is good enough for them, and I don't like feeling like I'm not appreciated.  

I feel like I'm just ranting and changing the topic though. :P Sowwie.


True. I agree with you there, I probably wouldn't reply to a person like that either.

I don't think I've ever seen an eHelp where every single reply has been rated 2/4, though. But maybe that's because I don't look enough.

Edit: Oh, and yeah, the reward point thing...meh, I could go post two one sentence replies in DTRM and get the same amount of points...

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Quote: from sophiethelibrarian at 5:44 am on Aug. 20, 2006

I think we could maybe have a new system of scoring.  

We can retain a Very Good/Good/Poor/Very Poor system, although each would be pointed, such as:  

Very Good - 10 Points  
Good - 7 Points  
Poor - 4 points  
Very Poor - 1 Point  

This means that, even if in someone's opinion, the answer was not brilliant, they are rewarded for their effort in some way.  

Then, the points can be added up as they are now.  


Mmmmm...nope, I like the system the way it is.  If the advice is rated a 1/4 or 2/4, why should you be rewarded points for it?  Like shh said, if the advice sucks, then it sucks.  I think that only the really really good ehelps should be rewarded, if there must be a points system at all.  It's also my understanding that you get 2 points just for replying anyway, even if the post was rated negatively, so you basically already get points for at least contributing and trying your best.

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The Serious Forum was completley dead when it was removed, and therefore served no puropse other than causing members to post their intimate problems and having the post completley ignored.  eHelp does everything the Serious Forum did but better.

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I am neither for, nor against this idea. Or at least, the restructuring of the system to better suit the replies that are given.

Not only do certain support leaders recieve a negative response for good replies, but they also recieve positive ones, for bad replies (on occasion). I have seen quite a few topics with few lined answers with 4/4 feedback marks.

As Audry, and Shh have said, this is about peer support, and not points. The satisfaction should come from the support being helpful, and useful. At the same time, you can't really say that getting positive feedback is not satisfying, although that may relate to the knowladge of one's own supportiveness, and not from a competition, or a points count. It may just come down to a interpretation/understanding of one's own supportiveness, although this can sometimes be reflected by positive responses.

Something that I have noticed is that support leaders might not provide the same quality answers in the forums, posibly due to the missing incentive of positive feedback. It may just be sub-conscious, but it's noteworthy. (I include myself in this category.)

I am not proposing anything, nor critisising anyone's veiws. They are your own. This is just mine.

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i think that is a great idea.

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I have a couple of things to add:

1) If an SL gives genuinely good advice and a good response and is willing to follow that up if need be and the member feels better for it, then screw the motivation. I couldn't give a damn why the member's doin' it, just that he/she is.

2) If you've spent a long time typing out a reply in good faith, then for many people, a bad piece of feedback IS a kick in the teeth and there are no two ways about that. If you are above the ratings, good for you, but many people do care and are genuinely anxious about what they are doing. And for them it DOES matter. I got a bad piece of feedback for telling the member concerned the truth - any psychiatrist would agree. That's my only negative. And it was annoying. Because it shows up as negative on your account and everyone can see it simply as a negative piece of feedback. As such, feedback does matter to many people and those of you who feel otherwise should remember others.

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I think that "very poor" should be 0 points.

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Quote: from JennyColada at 8:49 pm on Aug. 20, 2006

I'm sort of one of the members who's a bit obsessed with my scoring. I think it's just my own personal stuff though, it's nothing really to do with the eHelp rating system. Every time I'm rated on anything I always want to do well.

My view on this situation: if a SL is rated badly, then they really shouldn't be rated in the first place. I see no reason for any SL to ever get a negative reply (I have gotten a few, and I sort of take it as a personal insult). I see no reason for any of our SL's to ever get rated negatively, and I think that it's very unfair that some people do rate them negatively and there is no way for a SL to get feedback (because many times they are anonymous or guests) from the poster.

Sometimes, if I see that someone has been rating all the replies with a 2/4, I won't reply. Even if I know I have something to offer. My idea being: Why do I want to use my time an advice giving it to someone whom doesn't appreciate it? Advice is a two-way street. The OP needs to be open to getting the advice, and part of that is showing your gratitude by giving decent ratings (I mean, I can understand a 2/4 or 1/4 reply sometimes, but when EVERY reply is rated badly, that just says something more about the poster than the SL's).


here we have an admittion that a member who gives great advice and amazing help to many members is not replying to certain ehelps because of the point system.

The poster has got a good idea, but really, i think all the points should be scrapped from there anyway. mabyea straight 2 points for replying to an eHelp but no ratings or whatever

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I disagree with scrapping the whole ehelp scoring things altogether because of a few people. If anything just removed the points. Not the rating system, I actually like it and it serves to show me how helpful my reply was to that person.

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Sam, that was such a daft oversimplification. The rating system can often be a very positive thing.

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Quote: from insertnamehere at 3:32 am on Sep. 13, 2006

Sam, that was such a daft oversimplification. The rating system can often be a very positive thing.

I agree.  When I get a negative rating, I go back. I check where I got it, then see if the other people got positive ones and compare what there response had that mine lacked.  It's a good way to improve and a good way to show who's doing a great job of replying in the ehelp system.



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