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Quote: from prisoner of hss at 10:39 pm on Aug. 13, 2008

   
  I think you misunderstood, it was that it could happen, and I've never seen this forum.  

you may not have, but that was the reason david gave and we accepted
 


 
   
The point was that there's no reason for the site OR david to be sued.    
 

Its America, you trip over in the street and you cant get up before someone has put a lawyers business card in your hand. americans sue for anything, and if a mum finds out her now dead son/daughter has been asking for help with depression and unqualified teens have been giving it to him. shes gonna try to imporve the world by ensuring it never happens again, e.g. ensuring Livewire is closed down, then shes gonna want compensation.
   


Not really, and you're building long-shot scenarios upon each other, which is honestly a common tactic of conspiracy theorists. If someone wants to sue LiveWire in the first place, there's plenty of shit they can dig up, especially if there are a lot of serious miserable topics around. And remember, LW can be brought to court anyway. If brought to court for either, it's highly unlikely the other side would win. The whole idea is the time and court costs would ruin everything. It's the same either way.  


so why give them an excuse to target LiveWire, remember these aint bored teens these are adults that have to spend alot of money themselves to take LW to court, thus they need a strong motivation, i dont think any of teh current content would provide such motivation.
   



The rules are totally irrelevant to what I said.


the rules give LW a backdoor reason to delete the topic without the user feeling singled out
   


PM's are nice, but it's still a bad thing, AND this doesn't always happen.


Not always, but alot of the time, i know of mods themselves that remove such topics then PM the user.

 


Actually, professionals can be sued themselves and kicked off. But the point of what I said is that it is extremely condescending to just tell someone to shut up and get professional help.  


yes professionals can be sued, i mentioned that, and they have insurance to cover that, to be kicked of the register, serious misconduct would have to be proven and thats very hard with psychology, so really all they are worried about is the money side of fighting a case.
   



I'd like evidence of this, and I'd like the full story. And even if true, one case doesn't necessarily make a big difference. There are isolated cases of EVERYTHING.


sorry, i've looked through davids topics and it seems they are just as screwed as everyone elses. i cant find the topic where he announced the changes.
   


Yep, it's the legal fees. And my point was that those legal fees will be incurred 'REGARDLESS' of whether there is a suicide topic or not, because whether or not there is is totally irrelevant to whether someone TRIES to sue LW. If someone is that nuts, they'll do it anyway.


again, it takes an adult thats willing to fund a court case, thus not some snooty teenager, it would need to be someone with a real grudge, take away their child committing suicide and what can they hold a grudge against LW for?
   



No, she's a long term over-emotional turbocunt, and should be banned from this site forever.

really not helping your case that your not just an upset teenager...
   



If you care about support so much, stop acting like the 'rules' matter and defending the bullshit actions of the admin.

I care about support, but i care about the long term provision of it, sacrificing one issue to ensure that a thousands other issues can be delt with seems fine to me. And the users wanting to commit suicide can still ask for help as long as they dont mention suicide. they can discuss and work through their problems still

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you may not have, but that was the reason david gave and we accepted

We? You mean you and a bunch of other people, for no good reason either.
   


Its America, you trip over in the street and you cant get up before someone has put a lawyers business card in your hand. americans sue for anything, and if a mum finds out her now dead son/daughter has been asking for help with depression and unqualified teens have been giving it to him.

Again, this was my point. Regardless of the 'suicide' topic itself, there will be other topics and if someone is nuts enough to sue LW in the first place, they will already.


shes gonna try to imporve the world by ensuring it never happens again, e.g. ensuring Livewire is closed down, then shes gonna want compensation.

cunts like this are inevitable, unlikely to happen, if it does there's no reason why the suicide rule would play any significance.
 


so why give them an excuse to target LiveWire, remember these aint bored teens these are adults that have to spend alot of money themselves to take LW to court, thus they need a strong motivation, i dont think any of teh current content would provide such motivation.

There's no excuse or 'motivation' needed, anyone who tries to sue LW is already NUTS by their own devices. And anyone who has that much money and is going to do it is going to do it anyway regardless of one technicality.
 


Not always, but alot of the time, i know of mods themselves that remove such topics then PM the user.  

However, the topic getting deleted with no PM is also extremely common.


sorry, i've looked through davids topics and it seems they are just as screwed as everyone elses. i cant find the topic where he announced the changes.  

So stop mentioning it until you have a hard case that this is likely, k?


again, it takes an adult thats willing to fund a court case, thus not some snooty teenager, it would need to be someone with a real grudge, take away their child committing suicide and what can they hold a grudge against LW for?
You're missing the point. If the kid commits suicide and they want to sue a teen forum for it (highly unlikely) one specific topic about suicide will not make a difference if the person has left a trail of misery (which is pretty much always the case with suicidal people here).
 

really not helping your case that your not just an upset teenager...
I don't care. I've been on here almost as long as you, and if you can't see that she's a fucked up turbocunt, then well that's your problem. Maybe you haven't been involved enough.
 

I care about support, but i care about the long term provision of it, sacrificing one issue to ensure that a thousands other issues can be delt with seems fine to me. And the users wanting to commit suicide can still ask for help as long as they dont mention suicide. they can discuss and work through their problems still
You're sacrificing a whole lot for basically nothing. Seriously, make a better case and stop relying on obscure long-shot garbage. This 'rule' has always been bullshit and I've stood my case on this issue dozens of times.

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