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Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:02 pm on Sep. 5, 2008

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But you're wrong about who pays the most taxes.  

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The rich pay the most INCOME tax WHEN they pay it. But NOT ALL rich ppl pay it. Most don't and find lost of ways to bypass it. what part of that YOU dont understand?

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Whether or not all of those people pay their 'fair share' is not part of those numbers.

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Are you denying that rich ppl dont have a zillion way to bypass taxes and pay way LESS than they normally SHOULD if you really look at how much they got?

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Personal attacks and threats are the only things liberals are good at.

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Whether or not all of those people pay their 'fair share' is not part of those numbers.

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when we talk about "fair" tax we speak about fair share yeah.  

Are you denying that rich ppl dont have a zillion way to bypass taxes and pay way LESS than they normally SHOULD if you really look at how much they got?

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And you don't believe they earned what they got?

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And even if they earn it they SHOULD pay tax on it and many dont by hiding them in tax shelters and loopholes and tricks to hide it.

Read the wall street Journal article. They show it pretty well. Its not socialist shit speaking.

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Why should they pay more than they are legally obligated to pay?

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Post edited at 9:18 pm on Sep. 5, 2008 by jakelong

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ppl who inhreit their money did not. ask Paris Hilton if she ever worked to get her money.

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Heirs pay taxes on their money when they receive it. They should not have to continually pay to have that money every year. Should the government tax your savings account?

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And even if they earn it they SHOULD pay tax on it and many dont by hiding them in tax shelters and loopholes and tricks to hide it.

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Can you honestly say that you don't look for ways to avoid taxes? Every year you take you're taxes to H and R block or something similar and you have them look for every single thing that can save you some money.

Now when you're paying taxes into the hundreds of thousands or more you're definitely going to be looking for ways tom avoid that. Is it legal? Not always. The thing is if taxes weren't so high then they wouldn't have to look for ways out.

Now I want you to answer this question. Why do you feel that 5% of the population should have to be forced to do 50% of the work?

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ask Paris Hilton if she ever worked to get her money.

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And the money she has did come about through someone's work and has already been taxed several times.

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obama passed an abortion law where it is ok to give birth to your baby prematurely, and give it no medical attention, therefor killing the baby

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Could you please post a link?  I read about this before, possibly on this forum.

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Quote: from jasnIZbad at 3:36 pm on Sep. 3, 2008

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obama passed an abortion law where it is ok to give birth to your baby prematurely, and give it no medical attention, therefor killing the baby

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Could you please post a link? I read about this before, possibly on this forum.

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What it was is he votes against a bill that would protect babies that were accidentally delivered during an abortion.

Basically if an abortion was messed up and the babie was delivered they could kill the baby because they were going to kill it anyway.

Take it for what you will. I think it's disgusting.

I like how the guy arguing for him basically says he doesn't know about it.

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Quote: from jakelong at 11:18 pm on Sep. 5, 2008

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ask Paris Hilton if she ever worked to get her money.

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But I'd bet she has still already paid more income tax than you will in your entire life.  

And the money she has did come about through someone's work and has already been taxed several times.

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Exactly. It was taxed when it was originally made and when she got it.

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Should the government tax your savings account?

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Can you honestly say that you don't look for ways to avoid taxes?

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Every year you take you're taxes to H and R block or something similar and you have them look for every single thing that can save you some money.  

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Now when you're paying taxes into the hundreds of thousands

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Is it legal? Not always.

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Why do you feel that 5% of the population should have to be forced to do 50% of the work?

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Quote: from jakelong at 11:18 pm on Sep. 5, 2008

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ask Paris Hilton if she ever worked to get her money.

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But I'd bet she has still already paid more income tax than you will in your entire life.  

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And the money she has did come about through someone's work and has already been taxed several times.

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we dont have one so they can't tax that. Sounds like you rich enough that you do though.

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I highly doubt you don't have any form of a savings account. I have a savings account that has the minimum balance of $20 in it.  

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I can honestly say my mom hasn't figured that out no. maybe if you send in some tax person for free to help us out maybe we can make it so we dont have to pay nothing.

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Education equates to money in this world. Use turbo tax if you can't afford an actual person to do it for you. Every year you can use the federal free version.

Even on a very basic level your mom claims you as a dependent hence avoiding many taxes. I don't know your family story but your parents may file jointly to pay less.  

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fuck you got enough money to pay those dudes? no wonder you want to protect the rich!  

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Actually my grandma does my taxes for me but she does work there.

In almost all cases the amount of money you spend to have them done will be less than what you save unless you really know what you're doing.

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you pay that much in taxes? wow. if im so rich I gotta pay that much in tax I'd figure i got it made man.  

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No I pay nowhere near that in taxes. The point still remains. Why should someone have to pay more in taxes in a year than you will even make in 5 or 6 years let alone pay in taxes.

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Rich ppl can get away with illegal stuff 10x more than any poor can.  

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its the poor ppl that DO THE WORK not the rich. the rich  just sit in their A/C office and talk all day about how to squeeze nickels from the poor.  

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If you don't want to do menial tasks for low wages the rest of your life then make yourself valuable.

You either make yourself valuable to society or society should forget about you. Plain in simple. People that made something of themselves shouldn't have to pick up the tab for those that didn't.

Post edited at 5:51 pm on Sep. 6, 2008 by neodymie

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 4:04 am on Sep. 6, 2008

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Quote: from jakelong at 11:18 pm on Sep. 5, 2008

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ask Paris Hilton if she ever worked to get her money.

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But I'd bet she has still already paid more income tax than you will in your entire life.  

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and she'll never have to WORK for it.  

 

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And the money she has did come about through someone's work and has already been taxed several times.

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yeah through the work of all the mexican immigrants hired by Hilton to clean toilets and take out the trash and make the beds every day.

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You seem to be under the impression that every rich person was given that wealth for some reason. And that the only way they stay rich and make more money is through the "slave" labor of others. The majority of 'wealthy' people are just as honest and hard working as you are (that's assuming you are honest and hard working). They may have gotten a 'break' that you haven't gotten or they may just be a lot smarter than you. But I guess your hate doesn't allow for those possibilities.

And whether or not Paris has ever had to "work" for anything, she does get paid for 'working'. And she has paid more taxes than you ever will.

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