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Quote: from Blank black at 4:01 pm on Sep. 22, 2008

Guidelines are a nice way of saying rules in this instance.
Where does the word "please" fit into a 'rule'?  


And as for that conduct, has to be subjective. Who can view it objectively.
It's pretty straight-forward, what part can't you view objectively?

Post edited at 2:06 pm on Sep. 22, 2008 by Forever Angel

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 10:05 pm on Sep. 22, 2008Quote: from Blank black at 4:01 pm on Sep. 22, 2008Guidelines are a nice way of saying rules in this instance. Where does the word "please" fit into a 'rule'? Common courtesy. Manners, you know?

And as for that conduct, has to be subjective. Who can view it objectively. It's pretty straight-forward, what part can't you view objectively? So you can make every decision in your life without the slightest bit of predisposed belief one way or another? Because if you can, you're pretty much the greatest person who ever lived. Hell, not even our Lord himself could do that.

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Quote: from Blank black at 4:13 pm on Sep. 22, 2008

 Common courtesy. Manners, you know?
Lol, 'common courtesy' is not a part of a 'rule'. A 'rule' is "do this or else".


So you can make every decision in your life without the slightest bit of predisposed belief one way or another? Because if you can, you're pretty much the greatest person who ever lived. Hell, not even our Lord himself could do that.
   *  Moderators shall endeavor to create a positive community
   * Moderators shall not demean, harass, or threaten other members
   * Moderators shall take the questions and problems of members seriously
   * Moderators shall not exert their power over another member unless they are enforcing LiveWire's guidelines
   * Moderators shall strive to be impartial

So there is nothing here that you can accept at face value? I'm honestly interested to know how you have to interpret them subjectively. Maybe the first one... no one understands what a positive community is?
No one understands what demean, harass or threaten mean?
No one understands what seriously means?
Exerting their power?
Impartial?

Maybe you don't understand those terms, but if that's true, why are you a Mod?

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I love it when the kids come out to play. Always a good read.
Besides, who takes advice from kids anyway? The whole "support" factor tends to lose its sting when people are just posting about the same thing over and over but just using different wording. So obviously there's very minimal to support with that.

I don't need this website in the slightest, I'm only here because it gives me something to do when the girlfriend isn't around.

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Quote: from shotgun therapy at 7:06 pm on Sep. 22, 2008

I love it when the kids come out to play. Always a good read.
Besides, who takes advice from kids anyway? The whole "support" factor tends to lose its sting when people are just posting about the same thing over and over but just using different wording. So obviously there's very minimal to support with that.

I don't need this website in the slightest, I'm only here because it gives me something to do when the girlfriend isn't around.


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I'll have to this week since she's on her period and I really don't want blood on my junk.

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Quote: from shotgun therapy at 7:27 pm on Sep. 22, 2008

I'll have to this week since she's on her period and I really don't want blood on my junk.
ugh stop it

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 10:31 pm on Sep. 22, 2008

So there is nothing here that you can accept at face value? I'm honestly interested to know how you have to interpret them subjectively. Maybe the first one... no one understands what a positive community is?
No one understands what demean, harass or threaten mean?
No one understands what seriously means?  
Exerting their power?
Impartial?  

Maybe you don't understand those terms, but if that's true, why are you a Mod?


What constitutes to a demeaning attitude. Where does the line appear as to what is harassment? Threatening tends to be clear, but there are subtleties that you cannot ignore if you wish to moderate this site effectively. Perhaps you're so rigid in your day to day life that you don't understand that things are always clear cut but that is not the case for the majority of us. We have to put in a little more thought to realise what is horrible to another person, isn't necessarily to the next.

Now I'm having to explain this in a very slow, labourious way, but is that demeaning? To some it is, so we clearly have to look at what's actually being said.  

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and you give bucket loads of it dont you?

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Quote: from Blank black at 7:15 am on Sep. 25, 2008

Quote: from Forever Angel at 10:31 pm on Sep. 22, 2008

 So there is nothing here that you can accept at face value? I'm honestly interested to know how you have to interpret them subjectively. Maybe the first one... no one understands what a positive community is?  
 No one understands what demean, harass or threaten mean?  
 No one understands what seriously means?
 Exerting their power?  
 Impartial?

 Maybe you don't understand those terms, but if that's true, why are you a Mod?


What constitutes to a demeaning attitude. Where does the line appear as to what is harassment? Threatening tends to be clear, but there are subtleties that you cannot ignore if you wish to moderate this site effectively. Perhaps you're so rigid in your day to day life that you don't understand that things are always clear cut but that is not the case for the majority of us. We have to put in a little more thought to realise what is horrible to another person, isn't necessarily to the next.

Now I'm having to explain this in a very slow, labourious way, but is that demeaning? To some it is, so we clearly have to look at what's actually being said.


Isn't the reason you were accepted to be a Mod that you supposedly have the insight to recognize these things? I understand that, since this is a "team", you might want to get a second or third opinion, but if they have to be explained to you, you probably shouldn't have applied for the job.

'Rigid' in my day to day life? What does that even mean? Especially the way you tried to explain it.

Demeaning? It wasn't... until you had to point out that it could be. At that point you make a very subtle suggestion that implies my intelligence is in question. In response to that, I'll simply 'take the source into consideration'.

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